Re: [AMMRL] 2.5mm spin problems

From: Michael Groves <m.groves_at_utah.edu>
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2023 17:47:21 +0000

It can be informative to connect an oscilloscope to the monitoring output of
the spin controller if it has one—you can see what the spin detection
signal looks like and if that might be the source of the problem.

And I’m not sure if this is applicable in your situation but some of
the smaller MAS probes I’ve worked on have a cap that screws into
the front of the stator. I forget if the 2.5mm probes I’ve worked
on have that or not. Regardless, if your probe does have such a cap, I’ve
found in a few cases that tightening that cap too much will stop the rotor from
spinning—if you loosen that just a hair sometimes the rotor will spin.

If you can give a bit more information about your hardware—manufacturer,
what type of spin controller, and any more details about your probe, that will
help us give more useful suggestions. There are many possible causes for a
non-spinning sample, ranging from a bad spin detection module, to the sample
not actually making it into the probe, to the user simply having forgotten to
flip the stator to the magic angle, to the MAS controller being configured
for a different probe.

Cheers,
Mike

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Hi spins,

Can you recommend any troubleshooting tips for spin problems ( not spinning
with good marking present at the bottom) for a 2.5 mm ssnmr probe?

Thank you,
_Best,

(Ravindranath Garimella PhD)
NMR Manager
College of Sciences Major Instrumentation Cluster (COSMIC) Facility
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Hi Ravi,

The spinning problem may be caused by different reason. For your reference
to do trouble shooting


  1. you can try to spin an empty rotor and see if there is the same spinning problem.
  2. If the empty rotor can spin well, then your spinning problem may be due to your
sample (not packing homogenously, or magnetic component)
  3. You can take the probe out of magnet and test the spinning
  4. If the empty rotor cannot spinning well either, the problem may be due to your
probe. You can clean the probe, stator, and also check the laser fiber. sometimes
broken/dirty fiber may cause problem. polish it.
  5. .....

Good luck!

Banghao



Banghao Chen, PhD.
FSU-NMR Facility Director
Department of Chemistry & Biochemistry
Florida State University
102 Varsity Way, Tallahassee, FL 32306
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Hi spins,

Can you recommend any troubleshooting tips for spin problems ( not spinning
with good marking present at the bottom) for a 2.5 mm ssnmr probe?



Thank you,

_Best,



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NMR Manager
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