Re: [AMMRL] upgrade to TS 2.1 pl6 --> TS 3.6.5 raw check no signal on gradient shimming

From: Delk, Michael Joseph <mid15_at_pitt.edu>
Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2023 01:13:09 +0000

If you didn’t do an expinstall after all the changes can you call in a
standard Bruker parameter set and start again from there? Then read in whatever
gradshim1d2h standard set?

Mike Delk
University of Pittsburgh
School of Medicine
Department of Structural Biology
412.370.0066
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I agree—it does sound like the routing is messed up. Can you send a
screenshot of your edasp window with the “show probe wiring”
box checked? 2H should go through the 5W amplifier—the 100W amp
is connected to a BB preamp that has a 2H stop filter.

Cheers,
Mike


On Sep 1, 2023, at 6:58 PM, Darcy Burns <darcy.burns_at_utoronto.ca> wrote:



Well folks,

I’ve seemingly bricked out 2h gradient performance when attempting
to upgrade TS 2.1 to TS 3.6.5 (CentOS / AV III nano). In this case we are
receiving a topshim raw check - no signal at all

In a nutshell:
1. we are able to acquire a 1D 2H (zg2h)
2. we are able to topshim 1h
3. We are able to make a new shimmap
4. 1D 1H and 1D 13C both are OK
5. I can manually shim to lineshape spec

In this case, we installed and ran nmrrestore to bringing out tar file. Then
cf / ii / ii restart to clear any issues. Then checked prosol table and edited
with previous values accordingly.

At first we were not able to get a good shim response (shimming iterated many
times and set to poor values, complained of poor signal:noise, which in retrospect
may have been related a conversion from dB to dBm in prosol). Still, we did not
get a raw check no signal at all error.


We then though (perhaps unwisely) that there was an issue with the shimmap
and performed a ‘topshim initial’.
à at this point we were no longer able to get a 2H response in topshim.
1D 2H is OK, so is 1h gradient shimming.
à seems like the routing is messed up


Routing is as follows:
1H à SGU2 à 60W amp
2H à SGU1 à 100W amp
5W amp is available, but unused.



I have no idea what to do; we reverted to the older computer running TS 2.1,
ran an nmrrestore and went through requisite cf’s; all to no avail.

Any advice out there?

cheerios,

Darcy



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