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From: Monika Ivancic <mivanci1_at_uvm.edu>
Date: Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 3:21 AM
Subject: Re: AMMRL: NMR facility move inquiries
To: Heather Schenck <hschenck_at_uwlax.edu>, "ammrl_at_ammrl.org" <ammrl_at_ammrl.org
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Hi Heather and the AMMRL community,
Thanks for the shout-out! I'm glad the info is useful to folks. :-)
We were a bit miffed about the actual relocation of the magnet & console as
well. Bruker charges an arm and a leg for the relocation, but they do not
do the physical move of the magnet. For the console it may depend on which
Bruker engineer you get and what they're willing to do. Also, Bruker does
not guarantee that the magnet will come back up in the new lab. But the
chances of this not happening is very very very rare (they will tell you
the numbers...).
Fortunately UVM had hired movers (likely most universities do) to move our
department into the new building. After the initial Bruker engineer
de-energized and warmed up the magnet, the Bruker magnet guy came in to
prepare the magnet for the move (install restraints, etc.). Bruker will
also provide a box for the magnet to be placed in, which is can be lifted
with a pallet jack. As soon as the magnet was ready, the movers came to
the old NMR room with the pallet jack. I videoed every move they made for
liability. I believe the movers also moved the console, but since we were
moving one floor down, and immediately next door, and the path was paved,
they just reeled it from the old lab to the new (my initial Bruker engineer
would have done this, but the new lab wasn't ready and the movers hadn't
started when he was here).
With the older Oxford magnet, I had John Davidson (CIS) do the move. He
also provided the box and carefully prepared the magnet, but our moving
company relocated the magnet. I believe John and I moved the console, but
again, using the wheels. John was very good at helping me move EVERYTHING
that had to do with the Varian Unity-Inova. I again videoed everything,
since if anything goes wrong and leads to equipment malfunctioning in the
new lab, it is detrimental to have some proof.
One good thing is that since the U is paying these magnet engineers
beaucoup bucks, your magnet will have priority with the movers. They will
drop whatever they're doing and come move your magnet and components
immediately. I personally did not look into insurance and liability
issues, but if anything were to go wrong, likely your U is covered with
insurance, and the moving company is covered as well.
We did consider doing a cold move with the newer Bruker magnet, which would
have been half the price. But with all the precautions, we decided that
paying for a warm move was worth the 'insurance' that our magnet would be
functioning once it's back up and running in the new building.
Cheers,
Monika
On 6/4/2018 9:36 PM, Heather Schenck wrote:
First, a shout-out to Monika Ivancic at U VT for a great synopsis of
recommendations received from the group in 2016, as well as an update on
her own facility's relocation. Now it's our turn....and we have a few
questions going in.
We have a quote for our move that stipulates we will do the actual
relocation (pallet jack, etc.) between buildings. Is this typical in move
contracts? What do folks think of doing the relocation part themselves,
with vendor support limited to the parts of a move that aren't the move
itself?
If you have pursued quotes or contracted for for work like this, I would
welcome any info you feel comfortable sharing (and will keep it
confidential) in terms of cost, outcomes, liability info or whatever (I
don't really know what to ask; just kind of throwing the net widely).
Thanks.
Heather Schenck
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Monika Ivancic, PhD
NMR Facility Manager (W103A)
Department of Chemistry82 University Pl
<https://maps.google.com/?q=82+University+Pl&entry=gmail&source=g>.
University of Vermont
Burlington, VT 05405
(802) 656-0285 officeMonika.Ivancic_at_uvm.edu
Received on Fri Jun 08 2018 - 17:33:23 MST