Hi Jerry,
Excellent point. And, I agree, we should not replace the content for
current managers. If there was interest, it could be a
session/poster/other event separate from the AMMRL meeting.
I brought that up as a possible benefit for the grad students and
post-docs in attendance at the ENC who are considering a management
position. Who better to provide that guidance than those currently
running facilities? Assuming, of course, those people are interested in
providing that service (I would be interested).
Thanks,
Marc
Jerry Hirschinger wrote:
> Hi Marc,
> Thank you for the summary of the meeting. Sounds like it was a good ENC.
> I'm sorry I missed it, but our budget remains restricted. I just have one
> thing to comment on, out of all of the other very good ideas you mentioned.
>
> To develop a format of training and education of persons not yet, nor
> necessarily ever to be in an MR lab management situation would seem to
> defeat the rationale for running this list by Junta and limiting membership
> to those with currently relevant need. In my opinion, considering the loose
> organisation and purely volunteer efforts of the members, we could better
> hope to achieve the objectives of the group by concentrating our effort for
> the benefit of active managers.
>
> Happy spinning,
> Jerry Hirschinger, NMR Instrumentation Specialist
> Purdue Interdepartmental NMR Facility
> 560 Oval Dr. West Lafayette, IN 47907-2084
> Office: Wetherill 365A
> Phone / Fax: (765) 494-5288 / 494-0239
> Cellular: (765) 427-3034
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marc ter Horst [mailto:terhorst_at_email.unc.edu]
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 2:53 PM
> To: ammrl_at_ammrl.org
> Subject: AMMRL: meeting at the ENC
>
> Hi all,
> I want to send a "thank you" out to everyone who attended the AMMRL
> discussion last week at the ENC. We had about 65 people in attendance.
> We split into three groups to discuss cryo/cold probes, basic needs in
> facilities and other aspect of running a facility (and controlling costs).
> There were some lively discussions about cryo/cold probe maintenance and, in
> another group, what to look out for in new users of NMR spectrometers. The
> discussion format was overwhelmingly preferred over a series of
> presentations. The people I spoke with later in the week, reacted positively
> to the meeting. One critique did emphasize the need for well run
> discussions- something we can work on for next year.
>
> Those of you who helped lead those discussions, it's time to summarize the
> group's work and distribute to the listserv. Thanks for your assistance!
>
> One theme repeated by a number of spectroscopists new to the facility
> management scene was the need to hear from experienced managers- a topic
> often repeated at other past ENC's. They wanted to know what tends to work
> (and what doesn't), what in general to expect from a particular user base
> and how best to maintain equipment. The group needs to continue to provide
> this information at future AMMRL meetings.
>
> Are there other ways we can address this need at next year's ENC. We can
> use our usual AMMRL meeting as we have in the past. We could develop a
> format that extends the material to training and educational experiences for
> grad students and post-docs to better prepare them for a career in NMR
> service.
>
> We should also address career development of current facility managers- at
> academic facilities, there's no tenure, no company path to upper level
> management. Are we necessarily destined to retire in the same position we
> started? How have managers successfully enhances their positions while
> maintaining a well-run facility? Anyway, just throwing out some ideas while
> they are fresh.
>
> Comments or suggestions????
>
> Yeah it's early but we can put ideas into the listserv archives for
> reference when we prepare for next year's meeting.
>
> Marc
> --
> Marc ter Horst, PhD
> NMR Facility co-Director
> UNC-CH Employee Forum Delegate and Treasurer
>
> 056 Caudill Labs
> Department of Chemistry, CB #3290
> UNC at Chapel Hill
> Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3290
>
> e-mail: terhorst_at_unc.edu
> NMR Lab: (919) 962-1149
> Office: (919) 843-5802
> Department fax: (919) 962-2388
>
>
>
--
Marc ter Horst, PhD
NMR Facility co-Director
UNC-CH Employee Forum Delegate and Treasurer
056 Caudill Labs
Department of Chemistry, CB #3290
UNC at Chapel Hill
Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3290
e-mail: terhorst_at_unc.edu
NMR Lab: (919) 962-1149
Office: (919) 843-5802
Department fax: (919) 962-2388
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